Some observations about strings
I mentioned a lot of the issues I had with the low F# string in part one of this review, as well as some specifics of getting an .007 up to pitch as the high A string. I still haven’t has a change to get the guitar properly set up, so everything I’m posting here should be taken with a grain of salt.
While an .007 D’Addario can be stretched up to pitch on the 26.5″ scale neck and the strings can be bent a 1/2 step or so from the 12th fret up – it is pretty tempermental (I snapped the 5 strings I ordered from juststrings.com over the course of a couple of days). Since the Octave4Plus strings may take anywhere from 2-6 weeks to get shipped, I’ve ordered 30 sets of the .007s in the meantime (about $.50 a string versus about $6 a string for the Ocatve4plus – but if those strings don’t snap when you look at them the wrong way – it’s a good investment).
I like the D’addario .010 7 string pack set a lot for this guitar. With the extra scale length – the tension is a little closer to an .011. While I can’t really bend on the .007 – I can dig in on the other strings and be a little more aggressive with the bending.
Because I ran out of .007s (and none of the local music stores stock them) I found place that carried single .008s. Those strings will not handle being tuned to high A (apparently Octave4Plus .008s can handle this tension at this scale – FYI) – so I’ve been playing the guitar tuned down a 1/2 step to acomodate the high Ab.
Some modifications you may want to make / Design Recommendations
- The tuners really can’t handle the strings at this pitch. Since the guitar has 4 tuners on a side – you would need to purchase two 6 string sets to replace them. While I like Steinberger tuners – I’d have to think quite a bit before I sank $200 into tuners on any guitar. I’d recommend using the highest gear ratio you can get.
- While the pickups are better than what you’d expect on a budget guitar, they are a little lackluster. Here is the sound of a B minor scale played with the neck, middle and bridge pickup settings on a clean amp setting in AU lab with PodFarm.
(Note – if you have a problem hearing the mps3 just refresh your browser window – it’s a little glitchy in Safari but seems to work fine in other browsers.)
Also – while I could have edited the clips a little tighter – the hum from the CRT is present in the clips so this should be a realistic testing environment of what some one would get just pluging this into their laptop.
Here is the sound of a B minor scale played with the neck, middle and bridge pickup settings on a dirty amp setting.
Here is the sound of a dirge type of riff played with the neck pickup.
Here is the sound of a dirge type of riff played with the middle pickup settings.
Here is the sound of a dirge type of riff played with the bridge pickup.
I plan on swaping these out with Bare Knuckle Pickups at some point. While you could spend $200 more and get a Damien Elite – with better tuners and an EMG set – I’m not really psyched about the EMG tones. I’d rather have $200 to spend on pickups I like rather than spend $200 more on a guitar and still have to swap out the pickups.
Since this initial post – I’ve had a Bare Knuckle cold sweat put into the neck position. Info, pics and mp3’s here.
- I like the belly cut a lot – but I plan on getting a wrist cut added to the body to cut down on the slab feeling when playing it.
- As I mentioned before – the 24th fret on anything other than the highest string is pretty much just for show. If you really wanted to access those frets, you need to modify the bout.
When I play a chord like this C major 9 #11 (if you listen under headphones – you can hear all the harmonics ringing out at the end like a piano with the sustain pedal on) I’m surprised that more people don’t go this route. Eight string guitars may not be for everyone – but for those of you who are feeling adventurous this is not only most inexpensive entry point for exploration, it also gets you a guitar that is very similar in features to the model that’s $200 more – and stand up to other eight strings costing more than twice as much.
Thanks for reading!
thanks for the review.. I am not clear on why the difficulty with a “high A string” are you using an alternate tuning..?
I guess I need to read your earlier posts to understand
The issue is the amount on tension that comes from stretching an open string on a 26.5″ scale to the same note A that’s on the 5th fret of the high E string (highest in pitch i.e. the one closest to the ground when you have it strapped on).
“Typical” guitar scale length is around 25.5″ – so keeping a high a string stable (in tune and not breaking) at standard scale is tricky – but it’s much harder over the longer scale length.
I hope this makes sense!
hi, thanks for the review. i had a couple of questions however… i have been playing guitar for about four years now. i have used my dad’s c f martin em-18 solid body for most of my playing. i was thinking about upgrading to a more metal-y type of guitar, and i have always wanted a 7 string. i found a schecter damien 7 7 string for $450. i also was looking into buying the omen 8 for $400. so, i was wondering what some common problems were with the omen 8 and why it is so much less than the damien for more strings. i play mostly super heavy deathcore type stuff, and i was just wondering which you think is better.
Unfortunately I’ve never played the Schecter 7 – so I can’t really compare the two. I can say – from a build standpoint – that the cost between building a 7 string and an 8 string on a large scale is negligable.
I’ve been trying to get the high A string happening – but it’s just a little too tempermental (i.e. fragile). It’s okay for playing at home -but I can’t imagine making it through a full set with it. I’ll probably drop it back down to the lower register.
The Omen 8 is a good deal. The pickups are functional but not exciting. Plan on spending some $ later for some BNK’s… Also: If you get one – get i
I hope this helps!
Very big thanks for the review — and the sound clips, too! Was looking for some reviews before purchasing Schecter 8-string, and your article persuaded me that this must be a good guitar for the given price. And if something appears not suited for player’s individual style, this is not a $3500 instrument that would make customers bite themselves in anger for wasting big money.